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Post by rustleg on Feb 17, 2012 4:17:19 GMT -5
I am in the UK and have added the "United Kingdom" keyboard layout via Preferences. If I don't remove the USA keyboard I get a Country icon to the right of the flashfix icon. I can select whether to use USA or Gbr here. As I don't want USA since I don't have a US keyboard I delete the US keyboard in keyboard layout preferences - then the country icon disappears and I always get the UK layout when I'm typing. This is fine.
However when I restart KNOS the USA keyboard reappears even though I have saved preferences via "Backup App Settings". If I don't remove the US keyboard layout but select GBr from the country icon and continue, the system reverts to the USA setting at various times such as when I close all windows.
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Feb 17, 2012 18:47:03 GMT -5
I am in the UK and have added the "United Kingdom" keyboard layout via Preferences. If I don't remove the USA keyboard I get a Country icon to the right of the flashfix icon. I can select whether to use USA or Gbr here. As I don't want USA since I don't have a US keyboard I delete the US keyboard in keyboard layout preferences - then the country icon disappears and I always get the UK layout when I'm typing. This is fine. However when I restart KNOS the USA keyboard reappears even though I have saved preferences via "Backup App Settings". If I don't remove the US keyboard layout but select GBr from the country icon and continue, the system reverts to the USA setting at various times such as when I close all windows. The KNOS beta is currently not "internationalised" and because it was built in the US without the internationalisation login, it defaults to where it was built. Thus, USA keyboard is the default unless changed in the system keyboard settings as you've done. In the absence of more than the default setting, there are no configuration options saved as part of the way that Gnome itself is designed. UNLESS one does what you did in assigning a different keyboard setting. Once there are two keyboard options available, then Gnome will set up a configuration item for the additional keyboard setting and you'll see that keyboard selector appear up on top. All was well until you deleted the USA setting, whereupon the number of keyboard options returned to zero as far as Gnome is concerned and therefore by their design, they assumed the default once again whilst leaving the current keyboard settings for UK in operation. The solution would be to not delete the USA setting, but rather, use the "move down" item so that the UK keyboard rests in the first postion, with the USA setting down below it. By doing this, Gnome will then pick the UK setting as default thereafter so long as there is *any* second keyboard setting choice. You're welcome to remove USA and perhaps set up "Faroe Islands" in its place.  So long as you have two though, and GBr is in the first location at the top, it should then work as you expected for now. The reason why internationalisation isn't a default option in the current KNOS is that we would have to interrupt the boot process to ask you to select from a text screen upon each and every bootup from a list of countries, and way back in our KNOS 2 version, people found that to be extremely annoying and thus we removed that option back then since almost all of our testers were here in the US. Ultimately, we are planning a domestic version as well as an international one for final release which should satisfy our folks here as well as the rest of the planet. |
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Post by rustleg on Feb 19, 2012 6:06:10 GMT -5
...<snip>... The solution would be to not delete the USA setting, but rather, use the "move down" item so that the UK keyboard rests in the first postion, with the USA setting down below it. By doing this, Gnome will then pick the UK setting as default thereafter so long as there is *any* second keyboard setting choice. You're welcome to remove USA and perhaps set up "Faroe Islands" in its place. So long as you have two though, and GBr is in the first location at the top, it should then work as you expected for now. ...<snip>... I left USA in and it starts in USA, then even if I select GBR in the top line it still reverts to USA after closing some (not necessarily all) windows. However if I go into the Keyboard preferences and choose the layouts tab (which already has United Kingdom then USA below) then close without doing anything - now it behaves itself (so far). |
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Feb 20, 2012 3:00:50 GMT -5
I left USA in and it starts in USA, then even if I select GBR in the top line it still reverts to USA after closing some (not necessarily all) windows. However if I go into the Keyboard preferences and choose the layouts tab (which already has United Kingdom then USA below) then close without doing anything - now it behaves itself (so far). Glad you've got a workaround for now, here's hoping it holds. Gnome wants to see the internationalisation set up at boot time, and provides a login screen normally where that can be chosen. In a beta several versions back, we provided that screen during bootup but it caused a lot of problems with people who saw the "User: and Password:" thing there and were unable to login at all once they got there. The problem on our end is that "KNOS user" doesn't HAVE a password nor provision for same because setting up a login password involves the underlying file system and would create an exploitable hole and so we took it out entirely. Therefore in order to keep the highly limited "KNOS User" completely away from the underlying OS, we closed that door with a solid disconnect. Gnome provides no other means to access the "country selection" and though we have all that in KNOS, we didn't get to resolving that so far because our original plan was to distribute "country specific" versions where all of that would have been sorted as part of the build itself. I'll resolve this, promise ... but for now, that's about all we can offer that will work. My apologies for not having considered that in this beta series - one of the problems of expecting that our testers would be largely "local" over here. I've since gone to the Gnome folks upstread in order to find some way of making that possible within Gnome itself rather than having to put up a "country picker" each time you start KNOS and have that store the proper settings as a default. It'll require a bit of coding though since the Gnome folks gave me the usual "you want to do WHAT? Why?" Heh. |
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