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Post by pharrisire on Jun 14, 2010 16:04:02 GMT -5
Is the diags file created by KNOS-diagnostics
of use to you if there are not any problems?
Everything is working fine, but if the diags file
would be of use to you I'll send it (or any other
info that may be of help).
KNOS sees my 2 500G drives, and the 1T drive,
but not the 40G drive. Not a problem, just odd.
I'd like to see if I can put a few 'necessary' Firefox
addons (AdBlock, NoScript, xmarks, etc.) on a usb
drive so as to install them before
going online with Firefox in KNOS.
KNOS is pretty neat - Thanks!
Paul
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Jun 14, 2010 16:56:35 GMT -5
Is the diags file created by KNOS-diagnostics of use to you if there are not any problems? Everything is working fine, but if the diags file would be of use to you I'll send it (or any other info that may be of help). KNOS sees my 2 500G drives, and the 1T drive, but not the 40G drive. Not a problem, just odd. I'd like to see if I can put a few 'necessary' Firefox addons (AdBlock, NoScript, xmarks, etc.) on a usb drive so as to install them before going online with Firefox in KNOS. KNOS is pretty neat - Thanks! Paul Greetings and welcome to the "fambly!" Normally, we'd only want to see those diagnostics if there's a problem and so far, things are going far better than we ever expected. Since KNOS is not seeing one of your drives, I'll leave that up to you though of course I'm curious as to why that 40G isn't showing up. I'll bet that the diagnostics shows an "Error 5" for the drive indicating that KNOS found it to be "corrupted" and if that's the case, it'll refuse to mount it to prevent any harm. The diagnostics would confirm this. Now as to "corrupted" that simply means that the drive isn't as KNOS or BSD would expect it to be formatted. It could have some bad sectors but more likely the sectors didn't get laid out smoothly. KNOS will refuse to mount anything that isn't just right. If it IS corrupted, running Windows' CHKDSK on it in fix mode will correct any problems if they exist. If that drive is a "system recovery drive" however, we deliberately won't mount those since people aren't supposed to be able to "see" those. Anyhoo, if you want to email a copy to knos@verizon.net, be happy to look them over and so far in this operation, it's just the two of us - so no strange eyeballs will see your stuff.  As for the firefox add-ons, yes indeed! You can add them directly through Firefox after you've connected, OR you can go ahead and copy them to your stick and put them in from there. Something to bear in mind about KNOS though - there's no WAY you can get infected with KNOS, so you shouldn't be worried about going online and just getting those the way nature intended without going through all that extra trouble. You don't need a firewall, you don't need an AV, there's no malware to remove and no way to get jacked. One of the "fun things" about KNOS is if you happen to see word of a highly infected site somewhere, you can use KNOS to go there any time you feel like and see what's up. They can't infect KNOS either and that makes it fun! Heh. One thing though about *this* release of KNOS - there's no way to store those add-ons or settings, so you'll have to apply them all over again each time you reboot KNOS. They'll remain in there though until you turn off your machine. |
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Post by pharrisire on Jun 15, 2010 11:33:05 GMT -5
Howdy Kevin,
I am using KNOS on the laptop today and am sending its diags just in case there is
something of interest to you (I'll try to send the desktop's diags later).
Like yesterday on the desktop, there are no problems
to report,( though the word "WARNING" sure does appear a number
of times in the diags report).
Their is quite a difference in overall responsiveness between the laptop (w/2Gmemory)
and the desktop (w/4G memory). Not sure if the amount of memory is the
whole answer , or if the dvd/cd players are part of it.
At any rate, it works great on both machines!
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Jun 15, 2010 13:52:24 GMT -5
Howdy Kevin, I am using KNOS on the laptop today and am sending its diags just in case there is something of interest to you (I'll try to send the desktop's diags later). Like yesterday on the desktop, there are no problems to report,( though the word "WARNING" sure does appear a number of times in the diags report). Their is quite a difference in overall responsiveness between the laptop (w/2Gmemory) and the desktop (w/4G memory). Not sure if the amount of memory is the whole answer , or if the dvd/cd players are part of it. At any rate, it works great on both machines! Glad to hear it! Aside from one popular motherboard chipset of 2006'ish vintage so far (NVidia C51) and a few Broadcom wifi units that we expected to see problems with, been remarkably smooth sailing. We're quite pleased too. Not to worry about those "warnings" or even some "error" marks in the diagnostics - anyone who's run through them can probably guess that in this build, we went absolutely nuts in scraping every possibility for a problem. And the warnings merely indicate that an alternate path was taken for more information rather than it being like Billyworld where the word "warning" prophesizes instant doom to follow. More memory in a machine gives KNOS more room to stretch its legs since KNOS exists entirely on that silicon and nowhere else. But the major factor in how fast KNOS runs is how well the motherboard and that DVD drive can read in data without delay. KNOS tries to keep what it needs in memory for speed, and has wizard-like memory recycling, but when it needs to load in something, all comes down to how fast that DVD drive is. Be happy to peek at your diags if you want to send them, but if all is happy there's actually no need to do so. Happy endings mean that we already had everything in your box covered out of the gate ... |
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Post by pharrisire on Jun 16, 2010 10:53:37 GMT -5
Hi Kevin,
Back on the desktop today with KNOS.
I tried to send the laptop's diag yesterday but in case it didn't come through I'll
resend it along with the desktop's diag. Ooops, looks like no attachments
going through - I'll send them via email. (Like you said to do in
in the first place in reply #1 - sheeesh!)
If both a usb stick and a 1T external drive are plugged into the same usb
port (at different times) , what is it that tells KNOS its OK to R/W to the stick
but only Read to the 1T?
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Jun 16, 2010 16:45:26 GMT -5
Hi Kevin, Back on the desktop today with KNOS. I tried to send the laptop's diag yesterday but in case it didn't come through I'll resend it along with the desktop's diag. Ooops, looks like no attachments going through - I'll send them via email. (Like you said to do in in the first place in reply #1 - sheeesh!) If both a usb stick and a 1T external drive are plugged into the same usb port (at different times) , what is it that tells KNOS its OK to R/W to the stick but only Read to the 1T? All looks good on both aside from the wifi on the lappie - yours has that Dell 1390 Broadcom radio that isn't yet supported in this version but should be in the next KNOS. Other than that, nice toys you have! Sorry for the strangeness of the attachment not going through - perhaps the attach function on that site uses Flash to upload and flash wasn't working on the first try. That'd be my guess as to what happened. As to KNOS' clairvoyance on the USB ports, we can detect a USB stick on the basis of its internal file system layout - MSDOSFS as well as the funky addressing used by USB sticks. Thus, on that basis, KNOS allows write mode although in our design, we can make any type of drive or file system writable if that's what a particular customer would want their distribution to permit. For example, a special build of KNOS for an antivirus company would allow scanning of files on a Windows box with removal of rootkits and other hidden files on *any* hard disk including registry cleanups if so desired, or no access to any drive whatsoever in a situation where it was a secure KNOS for communicating specifically with a secure server such as in banking or military use. Flexibility is everything, and that's where we cut the salami on this particular disk output which you're testing now. We figured in lieu of a KNOS portal, it might be necessary to copy diags and other data to a stick if people were unable to connect. |
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Post by pharrisire on Jun 17, 2010 13:54:26 GMT -5
Thanks! Just a thought, but would it be possible to make something like the Cleopak extension in Firefox, that when you had everything adjusted just the way you like it (desktop background, Panel Properties autohide, allow javascript in Proboards Forum, etc....) then you would save it to the usb stick. Then the next time you boot up, the first thing would be to click on your saved file and, voila!, your work area is just the way you want it - no fiddlin before you get started. You know I am already dreading when your betas end and you go Commercial. Hmm, maybe I can fool my computer into permanently thinking it is always the day before the beta expires! |
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Post by Nancy McAleavey on Jun 17, 2010 14:21:22 GMT -5
There will be a better beta to come. Don't sweat it. The expiration date i sonly to ensure people use the best available version. We won't leave you hanging.
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Jun 17, 2010 14:56:47 GMT -5
Thanks! Just a thought, but would it be possible to make something like the Cleopak extension in Firefox, that when you had everything adjusted just the way you like it (desktop background, Panel Properties autohide, allow javascript in Proboards Forum, etc....) then you would save it to the usb stick. Then the next time you boot up, the first thing would be to click on your saved file and, voila!, your work area is just the way you want it - no fiddlin before you get started. You know I am already dreading when your betas end and you go Commercial. Hmm, maybe I can fool my computer into permanently thinking it is always the day before the beta expires! Nobody will have to worry about that. We VERY much appreciate all of you who stepped forward to help us test, and those who know Nancy and I know that we won't leave anyone behind. The only reason for the expiration on these betas is merely to ensure that old, possibly busticated copies won't remain in circulation after we've fixed the remaining problems. When we have what we believe is a "final" we can assure everyone involved in testing that they will receive a PERMANENT copy that won't expire. We expected that some of our testers might make a dub for a friend here and there and we don't want folks to have problems with old copies once we've found and fixed the potential problems. That's the only reason for our doing the expiration thing at all. We expect to have a replacement for this one somewhere in mid-July if not sooner. I'm already working with the latest new BSD stuff in preparing for that. We will DEFINITELY have a replacement ready for everyone WELL in advance of the expiration date so that nobody will miss a beat with plenty of spare time. What we're HOPING for down the road is for funding to be able to distribute a copy free to anyone who wants it, and means that allows US to eat as well. For those involved in the testing though, we intend to reward those who helped us with a guaranteed freebie as our way of saying thanks! As for backing up to stick, there's already a natty, convoluted way of doing that now. Open your HOME folder, go up top and click on "View" and select "show hidden files." You'll see a folder marked ".mozilla" in there. Copy that to a stick, and you can copy that back FROM the stick next time you reboot. All of your .mozilla are belong to you! You can do that with other stuff as well if you really want to - our plan though is to have KNOS save all of your settings everywhere (if you want) to the cloud. As I've said before, there's a LOT more to KNOS than just the stupid disk. Heh. |
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