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Post by rustleg on Oct 26, 2011 10:00:44 GMT -5
Well I have paid my $40 or so (includes tax) mainly because I applaud your project goals and am happy to be a supporter. My main interest is for a secure method of internet banking. In the past I have used a live Linux CD and I've also tried the DoD's Loghtweight Portable Security spi.dod.mil/LPS-Public_for_DoD.htm There was a suggestion on one forum that this "phoned home" as soon as it connected - I don't know if this is true. I got into desktop Linux partly to reduce my malware exposure and have always been interested in BSD but never made the jump. Started with Debian (Sarge) and moved to Mint when I had many kernel bugs running Debian Squeeze. I think KNOS may be my preferred system if all works as I hope. I still run Windows occasionally (partly to keep abreast because I support my sports club's system) but not for internet access. I currently multiboot Windows and a few Linuxes using www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-bare-metal.htm as a boot manager but am expecting to run KNOS from USB. I wonder whether it might be worth looking at running KNOS inside a VM. Preferably using some *nix as a host OS. Is anyone doing this? Anyway good wishes to you both. |
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Oct 28, 2011 1:51:04 GMT -5
Well I have paid my $40 or so (includes tax) mainly because I applaud your project goals and am happy to be a supporter. My main interest is for a secure method of internet banking. In the past I have used a live Linux CD and I've also tried the DoD's Loghtweight Portable Security spi.dod.mil/LPS-Public_for_DoD.htm There was a suggestion on one forum that this "phoned home" as soon as it connected - I don't know if this is true. I got into desktop Linux partly to reduce my malware exposure and have always been interested in BSD but never made the jump. Started with Debian (Sarge) and moved to Mint when I had many kernel bugs running Debian Squeeze. I think KNOS may be my preferred system if all works as I hope. I still run Windows occasionally (partly to keep abreast because I support my sports club's system) but not for internet access. I currently multiboot Windows and a few Linuxes using www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-bare-metal.htm as a boot manager but am expecting to run KNOS from USB. I wonder whether it might be worth looking at running KNOS inside a VM. Preferably using some *nix as a host OS. Is anyone doing this? Anyway good wishes to you both. THANKS! I can confirm that the Air Force toy does. Pharissire had suggested that I look into it a month ago and I grabbed copies of both the "regular" and the "premium" but have been so tied up with the next version of KNOS and all sorts of BSD9 adventures, I didn't get a chance to even look at it until about a week ago. It surprised me in that for a Linux, it boots up as slowly as we do. I had seen some almost "instant-on" Linuces years ago. We have an excuse for OUR slow in that we have no idea of what world we're booting into and we load "bare metal" based on what we find. Linux puts up a VM and always loads the same stuff into the VM and thus its hardware detect and load can be much faster since Linux is a "uniform environment" once it's lit. That was actually a surprise to me about this one. Yes, it does fetch stuff from DoD but to me, that wasn't as much of a show-stopper as their installs of vulnerable Adobe PDF and flash without proper sandboxing. Adobe's flash was tossed by the wayside years ago in KNOS and Flash runs in a Linux emulator VM since there's no native BSD flash. Allowing bad software direct access to the kernel is a terrible idea and yes, they're doing that. But for what it is, not a bad attempt at all but highly lacking. Having seen it though and being a bit too busy on this end, didn't really check out the traffic it was doing so much once I saw its limitations. Nice try, but I'd never use it. BSD is a bloody nightmare for the non-geeky - but there is nothing more secure and solid. That's why it seemed a perfect natural for us since it doesn't have the broad attack surface Linux does and it can be very nicely tightened. Especially the way we went about keeping it from being modified. But it sure ain't for the timid, which is why it never made it as a desktop world until KNOS back in 2009. Heh. We have a LOT of people using KNOS now, and I'm humbled to see so many of them using it INSTEAD of anything else. Once you have it running from a USB stick instead of the convenient puck, you'll probably prefer it to Windows or OSX as well (and yes, we've got quite a number of Apple people using it too). As to the terabyte thingy, all I can suggest is make sure all your stuff is safely backed up in case KNOS somehow trashes it and give it a try. I'd be curious as well. Everyone who's tried KNOS either does the stick thing or have wiped their hard drive and replaced what they were running with KNOS. On a nice big hard disk, you can store an awful lot of downloaded anonymous goodies out there on the "disk" personal location and many do. I have my entire life and our business running on KNOS and couldn't be happier. As for running the image on a VM, we do VMware nicely, same for QEMU and there's another one whose name escapes me at the moment that folks are known to be using with no issues either. Only trick there is to change the default RAM from the usual 256M or so to the required 1GB and you're good to go. And THANKS very much for buying ... don't be shy about emailing us at support@knosproject.com, that always gets answered quickly. The forum here's been a ghost town for a while since we're in between versions and so my fault for not checking in here more often after it being dead for so long. Mea culpa! |
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Post by pharrisire on Oct 29, 2011 8:50:06 GMT -5
""As for running the image on a VM, we do VMware nicely, same for QEMU and there's another one whose name escapes me at the moment that folks are known to be using with no issues either.""
I had it running on VirtualBox nicely before I went in all the way with the whole
hard drive on the laptop(should have done it sooner!).
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Oct 31, 2011 1:34:46 GMT -5
""As for running the image on a VM, we do VMware nicely, same for QEMU and there's another one whose name escapes me at the moment that folks are known to be using with no issues either."" I had it running on VirtualBox nicely before I went in all the way with the whole hard drive on the laptop(should have done it sooner!). Thanks for that! I couldn't remember which one, but I knew it was another. Yeah, once you go KNOS full time, there's really no going back. It's just so ... pain free.  |
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