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Post by hick on Feb 5, 2012 10:16:21 GMT -5
Hi, is this a malware sign or just wireless mouse going crazy?  |
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Feb 5, 2012 18:16:12 GMT -5
Hi, is this a malware sign or just wireless mouse going crazy? Interesting! I couldn't get Adobe flash to play that Linux video format but was fortunately able to download the video and play it in KNOS. Good choice on photobucket there. Most of those don't allow downloads. Looks like the "left button" is stuck on that wireless mouse. That's not malware, I'm actually surprised that the wireless mouse works at all since none of the manufacturers have provided a proper driver for any of them to the BSD people that I'm aware of. So something in how it's outputting your mouse movements is "out of standard" for a standard mouse output and apparently requires special handling. I'm not sure if there's much we can do about it without the manufacturer of that device providing a driver for it to us or BSD. I'll see what I can find out if you can tell me the manufacturer and model number of that device. I'm honestly surprised that it's working at all. There might be hope.  |
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Post by hick on Feb 6, 2012 6:32:31 GMT -5
Great to hear that. I use Logitech M305 wireless mouse. And i also have portable Logitech webcam C905. It works great.
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Feb 6, 2012 19:24:22 GMT -5
Great to hear that. I use Logitech M305 wireless mouse. And i also have portable Logitech webcam C905. It works great. I'm looking into the issue with the BSD folks. Will add to this thread once we figure out what's going on there. |
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Post by hick on Feb 9, 2012 11:34:38 GMT -5
Hi! With each day i am more convinced that is a malware out there in the wild. I typed google in that field and did a click and here it goes again. So how do you explain this behaviour?  |
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Feb 9, 2012 16:04:59 GMT -5
Hi! With each day i am more convinced that is a malware out there in the wild. I typed google in that field and did a click and here it goes again. So how do you explain this behaviour? /quote] I can understand your concern about malware, it's absolutely rampant out there. Malware and stopping it cold is the reason why KNOS exists in the first place. While Windows by its design is the most infected OS out there, Mac OSX and Linux-based systems have their fair share of it as well even though it's not as significant. In OUR case however, there is absolutely NO malware out there, at least yet. And our unique design will make it as close to impossible for that to happen as we can. With only a few hundred copies of KNOS out there right now, it is absolutely not worth anybody's effort to do so in all sincerity and when the day comes that it is worth the effort to try, malware authors will find heavily locked doors that they're not going to get through. What's going on there is something that I've seen once before on an IBM laptop. It's a communications timing problem with your mouse in the mouse driver for KNOS. To confirm, try plugging in a regular USB or PS/2 mouse and start up KNOS with that. You'll quickly see that the problem won't occur with it. It's just the one that you're using that has timing outside the values that the BSD mouse driver in KNOS is expecting and it's getting confused internally. I've reported your problem back to the BSD folks who designed it and am awaiting an answer on what to do about the problem. But don't take my word for it, try another mouse and you'll see. Malware isn't an issue for KNOS - I spent most of my life in antimalware research and development. I consider the issue to be a lost cause on Windows, and a growing threat to Linux and OSX. Not so with KNOS because it was built from the ground up to not provide any means for malware to attach to it. |
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Post by hick on Feb 10, 2012 8:21:19 GMT -5
I plugged usb mouse and this problem still exists.  |
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Feb 10, 2012 22:27:36 GMT -5
I plugged usb mouse and this problem still exists. That's actually a good sign as far as I'm concerned, it means that we have a hardware communications problem in the machine itself rather than your wireless mouse being strange or exotic. I'm not sure you want to hear too much technical, but for the benefit of others who might read this, what's apparently going on is that the timing of the mouse on that machine is not matching what KNOS is expecting to see for "normal" timing. All mice do "serial" communications much like old fashioned modems. There are different speeds that they can do this at and for reasons so far not known, your machine is handling that data at a different rate than we're expecting to see and that's why it's acting the way it is because somehow the data from the mouse is getting garbled. I need to figure out why. But your mice are OK, so that's the good news. I'm going to need to have you run our diagnostics for me, that will get me the data I need to figure out what's going on there. If you could send me an email to support {at} knosproject.com, and attach the diagnostics for me in that email, I can probably figure out what's wrong from that. To get me what I need, go up on top of the menu, select "Applications" and then "System tools" towards the bottom. You'll see an item marked "KNOS-diagnostics" ... if you click that, KNOS will generate a technical report for me that will appear on your desktop called "diags" which you can attach to that email to me. The report is a long text file, feel free to read it before you send it if you want to see what's in it first. If it doesn't appear on your desktop within 2 or 3 seconds after selecting "KNOS-diagnostics" then just hit the F5 key for a desktop refresh and it will be there. We'll get this figured out for you! |
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