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Post by pharrisire on Nov 25, 2010 9:31:55 GMT -5
The Epiphany web browser (as listed in Changelog)
is working fine here - am posting with it now.
The icon to switch between Firefox and Epiphany in the
upper right corner could be handy once one knows
the pluses and minuses of each browser and which
one to use in which situation.
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Nov 27, 2010 2:46:25 GMT -5
The Epiphany web browser (as listed in Changelog) is working fine here - am posting with it now. The icon to switch between Firefox and Epiphany in the upper right corner could be handy once one knows the pluses and minuses of each browser and which one to use in which situation. Epiphany is a far from "ready for primetime" browser. We're including it because, like Apple's "Safari" (a nightmare on Windows) it uses HTML5 "futurecode" (which we support fully in Firefox and have since last year) as well as the entire complement of the "Webkit" engine as opposed to Mozilla's "Gecko" rendering engine. But Epiphany lacks MANY expected features, and the only purpose in including it in this build of KNOS was to let people play with it and for us to see how well our OWN HTML5 and IPV6 integration works out among a handful of corporate IT departments that wanted to see what we could do in our own design with it. Among the things you will find WRONG with Epiphany though are the following and probably many more: 1. If you use Hulu, it will complain that your "Flash" needs to be updated. It's the same Flash as is in Firefox where it works just fine. There's obviously a few "backend" issues in there, probably javascripting-related and Epiphany just won't work on some sites that require flash even though it has the proper version. 2. Sun Java support is hit-or-miss. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. 3. User configuration items are lacking, as are key privacy features we've gone to great lengths to provide in our version of Firefox. For example, no way to set it to open new pages in a new tab unless you manually create a new tab first and then go there. 4. Bookmark handling is just awful - it puts them in alphabetical order and that's that. You can only import or export an HTML file, not JSON or XML files as other browsers provide, and it's just plain ugly. There's many other things that you won't like about Epiphany (although the Webkit engine renders pages MUCH prettier than the older Mozilla Gecko engine) but its main purpose being in this build is to allow testing of the HTML5 stuff primarily to ensure that we have all the pieces for the internals of KNOS in place. Given what Epiphany looks like right now, we can only hope their NEXT versions are a little more satisfactory for the end user, but testing their CORE right now is important to us for our own design purposes. |
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Post by pharrisire on Dec 14, 2010 16:08:33 GMT -5
When clicking on the "Seahorse Project Homepage" in
"About seahorse", the page came up in the Epiphany browser so it would
seen that means its the default browser. Is there a way to get it to use tabs
so each new link doesn't either have to replace the current page or else
open in a new window?
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Post by Kevin McAleavey on Dec 14, 2010 21:12:41 GMT -5
When clicking on the "Seahorse Project Homepage" in "About seahorse", the page came up in the Epiphany browser so it would seen that means its the default browser. Is there a way to get it to use tabs so each new link doesn't either have to replace the current page or else open in a new window? Glad to have you with us again! The Epiphany browser is one of the components that comes with Gnome, and it's seriously lacking in features in its present state. Only reason why we're including it is to test its HTML5 engine since Firefox and Chrome just keep getting worse and I can see us wanting to go in another direction in the future. So that "default" is kind of "hard wired" since it's present in this beta. If they improve their next release, we might keep it or we might ditch it. All depends on what people think of what they're seeing of it in Beta3. I've been unable to find any way of configuring it to "open new tab" by itself. There IS an option to open a new tab manually and THEN type in a URL, but that seems to be all they've done. Pretty clumsy, eh?  At the present time in these experimental builds, we're trying out the latest code and so far the transition in Epiphany to a full HTML5 engine instead of Gecko has them concentrating much more on HTML5 functionality than polishing the features at this point in time. I'm sure proper tabbing and perhaps a better bookmarking capability will be part of the "spit and polish" once they get their core code working properly. But right now, Epiphany is *purely* experimental. |
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